Comments on: Disturbing trends in outbound training http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/2008/06/26/disturbing-trends-in-outbound-training/ Wide Aware moments that stay with us for life Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:09:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Vidyut Kale http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/2008/06/26/disturbing-trends-in-outbound-training/#comment-11300 Vidyut Kale Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:10:08 +0000 http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/?p=159#comment-11300 Heh. Sushil, to the point as always. This is something I really am going to try asking bluntly - "can you afford not to train?" :D Heh. Sushil, to the point as always. This is something I really am going to try asking bluntly - “can you afford not to train?” :D

]]> By: Sushil Bhasin http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/2008/06/26/disturbing-trends-in-outbound-training/#comment-11295 Sushil Bhasin Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:04:09 +0000 http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/?p=159#comment-11295 Managers who are stuck up with budgets need to ask themselves a simple question. "Whats the return on investment?" and now we talk of ROTI, too. ROTI is Return on Time Invested. If you are ignorant of the advantages or returns of an OUTBOUND Training Programme, you are going to miss something. Some Managers may NEVER realise that. Just too bad! I ask another question. "Have you ever wondered what is the cost of NOT TRAINING?" Please ponder over that. Dont train. make your team ineffective, de-motivated and outdated. The results may not be visible but certainly devastating. Choice is YOURS, dear Manager. Managers who are stuck up with budgets need to ask themselves a simple question. “Whats the return on investment?” and now we talk of ROTI, too. ROTI is Return on Time Invested. If you are ignorant of the advantages or returns of an OUTBOUND Training Programme, you are going to miss something. Some Managers may NEVER realise that. Just too bad!
I ask another question. “Have you ever wondered what is the cost of NOT TRAINING?” Please ponder over that. Dont train. make your team ineffective, de-motivated and outdated. The results may not be visible but certainly devastating.
Choice is YOURS, dear Manager.

]]> By: Vidyut Kale http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/2008/06/26/disturbing-trends-in-outbound-training/#comment-11244 Vidyut Kale Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:24:16 +0000 http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/?p=159#comment-11244 Replying to an email comment by Sheeren about this article: <blockquote>"Recreation spaces in India don't fit our training budget. we have a weekend from Mumbai or a one day picnic. Mumbai has changes for creativity. Adventure is not only expensive, but for outbound prog in India, our senior managers don't know advantages of team building."</blockquote> I can only say that until people take the chance, not much is going to happen. As a trainer and avid outdoor person, I am not fussed about luxury and can say the same of my team. How fair is it to simply sweep everything under the name of budget and silence yourselves with luxurious one day events? My experience says that I can do a training programme on some remote fort with bare minimum facilities - this is my commitment to learning. It is people who make an organization. If you don't like something, you are being part of its continuing. What can you do to see your vision coming to life? <code> My philosophy is simple. I have one life. Do I want to spend it explaining why certain things are like that, or do I want to go for what I want?</code> Replying to an email comment by Sheeren about this article:

“Recreation spaces in India don’t fit our training budget. we have a weekend from Mumbai or a one day picnic. Mumbai has changes for creativity. Adventure is not only expensive, but for outbound prog in India, our senior managers don’t know advantages of team building.”

I can only say that until people take the chance, not much is going to happen. As a trainer and avid outdoor person, I am not fussed about luxury and can say the same of my team. How fair is it to simply sweep everything under the name of budget and silence yourselves with luxurious one day events? My experience says that I can do a training programme on some remote fort with bare minimum facilities - this is my commitment to learning. It is people who make an organization. If you don’t like something, you are being part of its continuing. What can you do to see your vision coming to life?

My philosophy is simple. I have one life. Do I want to spend it explaining why certain things are like that, or do I want to go for what I want?

]]> By: Vidyut Kale http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/2008/06/26/disturbing-trends-in-outbound-training/#comment-11223 Vidyut Kale Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:58:33 +0000 http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/?p=159#comment-11223 Swapnil, lol. I'd have guessed it was you even if you didn't write your name :D You are simply illustrating what I said. Is training a popularity contest? While voluntary participation adds value to training, which training intervention intended for a team really allows for individual whims about participation/attendance? This is my entire point. Outbound training is not considered as training, and attitudes of an office picnic apply. This whole fantasy that an employee can get away with refusing training interventions in his workplace seems applicable only to "certain kinds of training". The exploration is in why those trainings are not as crucial for all members, and why allowing such whims happens with some training and not others. The other sorrow, of course, is what we had discussed earlier - training is for "their" improvement. Its always about others. We are, apparently perfect. Wanting transformation and working toward it are different things. Swapnil, lol. I’d have guessed it was you even if you didn’t write your name :D You are simply illustrating what I said. Is training a popularity contest? While voluntary participation adds value to training, which training intervention intended for a team really allows for individual whims about participation/attendance? This is my entire point. Outbound training is not considered as training, and attitudes of an office picnic apply. This whole fantasy that an employee can get away with refusing training interventions in his workplace seems applicable only to “certain kinds of training”. The exploration is in why those trainings are not as crucial for all members, and why allowing such whims happens with some training and not others.

The other sorrow, of course, is what we had discussed earlier - training is for “their” improvement. Its always about others. We are, apparently perfect. Wanting transformation and working toward it are different things.

]]> By: Swapnil http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/2008/06/26/disturbing-trends-in-outbound-training/#comment-11222 Swapnil Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:46:32 +0000 http://www.wide-aware.com/blog/?p=159#comment-11222 Hi Vidyut,You misunderstand when you say this. The employees will not come if we tell them it is a training programme, and they can't have fun.We don't mind doing training for the people. It is for their improvement. But if they will not come, there is no improvement and no training and no fun also. Nothig Hi Vidyut,You misunderstand when you say this. The employees will not come if we tell them it is a training programme, and they can’t have fun.We don’t mind doing training for the people. It is for their improvement. But if they will not come, there is no improvement and no training and no fun also. Nothig

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